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3 2 3 KIAI Interview
Conducted by Dr. Ivica Zdravkovic, KIAI Founder
 
The three sensei who will give their answers to our three questions in this issue of KIAI Online Magazine are: Nick Sleep sensei from UK, Aiki Jujutsu and Kenjutsu yudansha; Ramon Lawrence sensei from Australia, Bujutsu, Kendo, Iaido and Jodo yudansha; Srdjan Ilic sensei from Serbia, Aiki Jujutsu and Kenjutsu yudansha
 
 
KIAI Q#1: No matter how many students in kenjutsu you have at the moment, can you tell us which you prefer: teaching in front of a large class of students, teaching to a small group of students or teaching only one student at the time? Please, give us your reasons.
 
NICK: My main experiences and my preferred choice is to teach a small group of students at any one time. This way it is easier for me to demonstrate techniques and to ensure that I am able to see every student and be able to correct them if they are doing techique incorrectly. I enjoy association courses where there are a large number of students on the tatami, however for me, small groups are more personal and I believe that you get a better response from the students when the instruction comes across more personal. Also I believe that they train harder because you are always watching.
 
RAMON: I am happy with doing all three depending on the level of the person I am instructing. It is important to your own development to ensure you are capable of presenting information, keeping the interest of different members in different environments, and being capable of maintaining a balanced interest of all members of a group. When it is a large group I must ensure that I maintain instruction to take every person in the group forward at the pace of the slowest mover - otherwise I need to break the group into sections. With the larger group I maintain the instruction of basics that is good for all levels to revisit anyway. With the smaller groups I can enhance specific points appropriate to improving that groups overall understanding of the technique and fine tuning personal skills within the smaller group. When I teach one on one I expect the person to be working on more advanced techniques of a personal nature appropriate to their own skill and understanding - this type of training is much nicer for the instructor to be involved in as it allows you to really work on your own transfer of personal knowledge and interpretation of techniques and to see a more direct improvement within the student from your own skill transfer as it happens. However I feel to not maintain your skills in all three areas of teaching will narrow your ability to continually improve your own development and keep all students in touch with your system of skill development.

SRDJAN: Smaller group of people, preferably not more than 10. It is five pairs of practitioners and one can easily control them and correct them in their errors. It is hard to find today more than 10 people interested in kenjutsu at the same time. Besides, it also depends on the size of the practice room - which can be a problem: hard to find large halls these days. Finally, I have to mention that one class of kenjutsu should not last over 90 minutes, two hours top. Everything beyond that is a waist of time both for instructor and students.
 

KIAI Q#2: Lots of films with Japanese swords arts have been successfully released in last year or so. "Kill Bill", "The Last Samurai", "Zatoichi" - to name a few... These Blockbusters attract lots of audience to cinemas around the world. In your opinion, what will be the effect of this fashion to the number of kenjutsu students in yours and dojo nearby? Will these movies attract more new students, repel even the current ones or will make no affect at all?
 
NICK: I have seen Kill Bill and The Last Samurai (the latter having the most effect on me, although Kill Bill was good, it was very Hollywood!) and what I would like to say is that I believe that there may be the odd few individuals who are or have been stirred enough by these movies to go to their nearest dojo to study Kenjutsu/Kendo. From my own experience, I have had one person call me to study sword arts since these movies were released. In my opinion, The Last Samurai was more of an enduring tribute to a unique way of life and the warrior spirit. Kill Bill more of a violent slasher movie !

RAMON: A very interesting question - one that I have personally been watching in the last twelve months. "Kill Bill" never attracted one student into my dojo's (we ask these questions sensitively to determine where our students come from and why). However, "The Last Samurai" attracted many new students for the different sword arts we do. The main reason that attracted them was more from the philosophical side. I think a large amount would depend on the socio-economic area you are pulling your students from too. I tend to get a very balanced group of beginners across the board and it helps maintain a balance of committment and understanding within the dojo - there are those that think it must all be physical and those that think it should be mental, but at the end of the day it must move from a physical approach toward a mental one without loosing touch with either aspect. It all comes down to "balance". I might add that the "Karate Kid" series had a huge influence on beginners into the martial arts arena and the need to see both sides.

SRDJAN: Unfortunately, even beside some very good (but rare) techniques that can be seen in these films, I do not notice any contribution of the films in increasing the number of people interested in kenjutsu. At least that is so in Serbia. People are regularly more impressed with main actors and computer effects than with the story or fighting scenes and techniques.

 
KIAI Q#3: On one of the kenjutsu related forums I have heard a Japanese based kendo sensei  saying something like this: "The Kendo population it mostly kids who give up after school or continue for a few more years at University or if they join the police college." Now, this may be a sad fact, especially when knowing that more than 85% of all kendoka live and practice in Japan. Do you agree with current course of kendo "development" and obvious lack of interest from kendo authorities to popularise their sport through e.g. Olympic games - or you have some alternative ideas for increasing the number of practitioners of kendo and related arts?
 
NICK: Most of the Kendo students I have seen within the BZIS are children for some reason. I think that popularising Kendo through the Olympic Games would on one hand bring it to a wider audience, though a lot of martial arts are now becoming more and more competition orientated which, as a traditional martial artist, I am not too interested in. Interest in weapon arts within the BZIS has come mainly through the instruction of Aikijujutsu and Aikido and every time a major seminar or course is held, there is a great interest in Kenjutsu and Jojutsu specifically.
From my own point of view, I am more than happy to spread the interest in the UK via Kenjutsu and Aikijujutsu seminars along with Ian Stewart Sensei. However, I do not particularly think that the movies stated above will mean an upsurge in Kendo. You never know.... I may be wrong.... Bruce Lee did it for Kung Fu and Steven Seagal did it for Aikido.... who knows!!

RAMON: It is also interesting to note that the Japanese Sensei have made changes recently towards retention of students into martial arts in Japan. They are more about moving away from the introduction of kendo into Olympics for instance. The kendo authorities are pushing to bring more understanding of kata forms and "proper" sword cutting back into the art and moving away from the "slash & bash" systems that we have moved towards. I have heard such comments as "take off your armour and try doing kendo and see if you take the same chances to strike your opponent". There are two sides to most arts - the classical and the sporting. Each art needs to keep a balance of these elements so that the student can understand the concepts. It is very much like "budo" and "bujutsu" - similar but different. In my dojo I teach the classical side as the most important and to use the sporting side as the "fun" you have in playing with it. The sporting suide remains as long as you remain within the athletic qualities required but the classical side continues to develop for the rest of your life and will have the greater rewards within your life overall, but like Ying and Yang there are two elements of all arts that must stay within balance for the level, age and maturity of the student/practitioner.

SRDJAN: I don't have any special opinion nor attitude towards Kendo (except that you can get a headache from it), so I cannot give any answer to this question.

 
KIAI: Thank you for your participation in our "323" series. Have fun and success in your ongoing budo practice!  


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